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I am surprised that Melanie Joly is not named in this podcast since she brought canadian chinese business members to China and is Jean Chretien's mentee.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/foreign-affairs-minister-melanie-joly-to-visit-china-after-years-long-rift

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I have a feeling she'll pop up in a future episode. We also spoke about her in one of the recent episodes together.

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